Apmel Goosson: now i am reading someone who thinks he knows how mind came from matter
ush Underwood: ah mind and matter .. an interesting topic
Apmel Goosson: yes..that is the greatest quest
ush Underwood: maybe in the very beginning there was mind .. and matter later?
Apmel Goosson: no..i want an explanation how mind came out of matter
ush Underwood: well first was mind .. and created matter
ush Underwood: why not?
Apmel Goosson: that is like saying first was God.. that doesn´t explain anything
ush Underwood: i feel .. the question WHY will over long distance always lead us to the word GOD
ush Underwood: so better dont ask WHY
Apmel Goosson: i didn´t say why..i said i wanted an explanation
Apmel Goosson: of how mind came from matter
ush Underwood: isnt this the same ?
Apmel Goosson: not the way i see it
ush Underwood: mhm
Apmel Goosson: if we can figure out how mind comes from matter we can make mindful machines
ush Underwood: they would have feelings?
Apmel Goosson: if they have minds i think they have to have feelings.. that is my guess
ush Underwood: feelings are a good indicator of mind
Apmel Goosson: maybe.. we don´t know that for sure.. but i think so too
ush Underwood: and then .. the fear to die ...
ush Underwood: its a mind thing too
Apmel Goosson: DD doesn´t think that chimps have minds
Apmel Goosson: i disagree with him there
ush Underwood: they have minds
Apmel Goosson: i think so too..but nobody knows for sure
ush Underwood: they have very strong feelings .. they are no instinct machines
Apmel Goosson: you don´t have to convince me ush..i´m on your side there.. but until we know what minds is and how it came about nobody knows for sure
ush Underwood: now my instinct & mind tell me i have to go off ..t y very much for your visit!